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- From: pbunch@Walden.mo.net (Phil Bunch)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
- Subject: Re: Problems with C64
- Date: 14 Mar 1996 17:35:57 GMT
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- Darren Fuerst (a10@server.uwindsor.ca) wrote:
- : In article <4hs114$11q@ns1.thpl.lib.fl.us> sfxu@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us (Jayme Rice) writes:
- : >characters most times, it is one of the RAM memory chips that when out.
- : >To replace the bad one, it's a hit and miss deal. You have to replace
- : >one and see if it corrects the problem. If it doesn't, then you replace
- : >the second and so on. A big pain. The best way to approach the problem
- :
- : If you're going to replace the RAM, I'd just desolder all the old chips,
- : solder in sockets, and fill 'em up with RAM known to be good (voice of
- : experience here). If your 64 uses 4164's, you can also use 41256's
- : (again, voice of experience). 41256's are very cheap and very plentiful.
- : These are common in most older PC's (PC's, XT's, AT's). Most of these
- : machines have long since been retired, so if you look hard you can probably
- : find a "donor" sitting in a closet or storage room at work or at school
- : (you guessed it, voice of experience -- I've got about 4 meg of these puppies
- : kicking around).
- :
- : Darren
- :
- :
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- RAM chips usually fail in one of two ways: shorted or opened.
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- If they short out then you can usually tell by touching them
- to see if they get hot. Some get VERY hot, others not so hot.
- I usually use the back of my finger (between first and second
- knuckle) to check for heat because it seems more sensitive to
- heat.
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- If you find more than one shorted RAM chip, be very suspect of
- a flakey power supply.
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- If they open up you can sometimes "piggyback" a good RAM on
- top of the suspect chip and get the computer to power up.
- This trick will also work with defective PLA chips *most of
- the time*.
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